【立此存照】信誉死网站的蠢人就是多 【白字秀才按：这个俗气儿，自己不先做研究和调查，一开口就对别人充满怀疑和不信任。文章发表在什么地方，你自己不会去找？如果找不到可以问作者。何必因为自己蠢，就怀疑别人造假？】 附：◇◇新语丝(www.xys.org)(xys.dxiong.com)(xys.3322.org)(xys.xlogit.com)◇◇ 　　反对进化论的人是什么鬼科学家？ 　　苏乞儿 　　在新浪上看到了一则新闻，题目是《500多名美国科学家联合反对达尔文进 化论》。关于达尔文的进化论受到批驳，方舟子已经N次阐述绝大部分都是神创 论或者智能设计（弱智设计）者为了宗教信仰提出的理论，跟科学没有任何关系。 　　新浪的编辑在没有做出任何调查，发表的这篇文章空洞无一物。 　　1、首先科学家是谁？他们500多人连一个名字都没有。他们是不是科学家，不是自称的，而是在学术上达到一定程度才能被叫做科学家。 　　2、这个文章发表在什么地方？哪个杂志根本看不出来，难道发表在新浪科技？ 　　3、谁立论，谁举证。文章的主要观点没有提出有力的证据证明他们的怀疑是有根据的。 　　4、爱恩斯坦说过，如果是正确的理论，一个人签名就够了。说500个，是把科学问题泛政治化，是神创论者愚昧大众的典型做法。 　　http://tech.sina.com.cn/d/2006-02-22/0802847902.shtml 　　500多名美国科学家联合反对达尔文进化论 　　 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　http://www.sina.com.cn 2006年02月22日 08:02 新浪科技 　　新浪科技讯　500多名美国科学家联合签名反对达尔文的进化论。在这些科 学家联合签名的反对文章中写道：“我们对达尔文的进化理论表示非常的怀疑”。 　　这篇文章还称：“我们对达尔文进化论中的自然选择理论表示怀疑。我们认 为，作为科学家我们有责任要求各领域科学界进行一系列更加深入的研究，以确 定达尔文的理论是否合理”。 　　在这篇反对文章上签名美国科学家共有五百一十四名，其中有一百五十四名 是生物学家、七十六名化学家、六十三名物理学家，其余的是一些毗邻学科的专 家们。 　　据这篇反对文章的起草者认为，地球上的生命具有极其复杂的发展过程，达 尔文进化理论狭窄的框框根本容纳不了地球生命的起源与未来发展进程。( 久亮) (XYS20060223) ◇◇新语丝(www.xys.org)(xys.dxiong.com)(xys.3322.org)(xys.xlogit.com)◇◇

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   By KENNETH CHANG Published: February 21, 2006 In the recent skirmishes over evolution, advocates who have pushed to dilute its teaching have regularly pointed to a petition signed by 514 scientists and engineers. Skip to next paragraph Top, Kevin P. Casey for The New York Times; Patty Wood for The New York Times IN OPPOSITION Bruce Chapman, Discovery Institute president, top, and James M. Tour, chemistry professor at Rice, disagree with Darwin. Kenneth Chang's answers to select reader questions about this article are available here. Forum: Human Origins The petition, they say, is proof that scientific doubt over evolution persists. But random interviews with 20 people who signed the petition and a review of the public statements of more than a dozen others suggest that many are evangelical Christians, whose doubts about evolution grew out of their religious beliefs. And even the petition's sponsor, the Discovery Institute in Seattle, says that only a quarter of the signers are biologists, whose field is most directly concerned with evolution. The other signers include 76 chemists, 75 engineers, 63 physicists and 24 professors of medicine. The petition was started in 2001 by the institute, which champions intelligent design as an alternative theory to evolution and supports a "teach the controversy" approach, like the one scuttled by the state Board of Education in Ohio last week. Institute officials said that 41 people added their names to the petition after a federal judge ruled in December against the Dover, Pa., school district's attempt to present intelligent design as an alternative to evolution. "Early on, the critics said there was nobody who disbelieved Darwin's theory except for rubes in the woods," said Bruce Chapman, president of the institute. "How many does it take to be a noticeable minority - 10, 50, 100, 500?" Mr. Chapman said the petition showed "there is a minority of scientists who disagree with Darwin's theory, and it is not just a handful." The petition makes no mention of intelligent design, the proposition that life is so complex that it is best explained as the design of an intelligent being. Rather, it states: "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged." A Web site with the full list of those who signed the petition was made available yesterday by the institute at dissentfromdarwin.org. The signers all claim doctorates in science or engineering. The list includes a few nationally prominent scientists like James M. Tour, a professor of chemistry at Rice University; Rosalind W. Picard, director of the affective computing research group at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology; and Philip S. Skell, an emeritus professor of chemistry at Penn State who is also a member of the National Academy of Sciences. It also includes many with more modest positions, like Thomas H. Marshall, director of public works in Delaware, Ohio, who has a doctorate in environmental ecology. The Discovery Institute says 128 signers hold degrees in the biological sciences and 26 in biochemistry. That leaves more than 350 nonbiologists, including Dr. Tour, Dr. Picard and Dr. Skell. Of the 128 biologists who signed, few conduct research that would directly address the question of what shaped the history of life. Of the signers who are evangelical Christians, most defend their doubts on scientific grounds but also say that evolution runs against their religious beliefs. Several said that their doubts began when they increased their involvement with Christian churches. Some said they read the Bible literally and doubt not only evolution but also findings of geology and cosmology that show the universe and the earth to be billions of years old. Scott R. Fulton, a professor of mathematics and computer science at Clarkson University in Potsdam, N.Y., who signed the petition, said that the argument for intelligent design was "very interesting and promising." He said he thought his religious belief was "not particularly relevant" in how he judged intelligent design. "It probably influences in the sense in that it makes me very interested in the questions," he said. "When I see scientific evidence that points to God, I find that encouraging." Roger J. Lien, a professor of poultry science at Auburn, said he received a copy of the petition from Christian friends. "I stuck my name on it," he said. "Basically, it states what I believe." Dr. Lien said that he grew up in California in a family that was not deeply religious and that he accepted evolution through much of his scientific career. He said he became a Christian about a decade ago, six years after he joined the Auburn faculty. Skip to next paragraph Kenneth Chang's answers to select reader questions about this article are available here. Forum: Human Origins "The world is broken, and we humans and our science can't fix it," Dr. Lien said. "I was brought to Jesus Christ and God and creationism and believing in the Bible." He also said he thought that evolution was "inconsistent with what the Bible says." Another signer is Dr. Gregory J. Brewer, a professor of cell biology at the Southern Illinois University medical school. Like other skeptics, he readily accepts what he calls "microevolution," the ability of species to adapt to changing conditions in their environment. But he holds to the opinion that science has not convincingly shown that one species can evolve into another. "I think there's a lot of problems with evolutionary dogma," said Dr. Brewer, who also does not accept the scientific consensus that the universe is billions of years old. "Scientifically, I think there are other possibilities, one of which would be intelligent design. Based on faith, I do believe in the creation account." Dr. Tour, who developed the "nano-car" - a single molecule in the shape of a car, with four rolling wheels - said he remained open-minded about evolution. "I respect that work," said Dr. Tour, who describes himself as a Messianic Jew, one who also believes in Christ as the Messiah. But he said his experience in chemistry and nanotechnology had showed him how hard it was to maneuver atoms and molecules. He found it hard to believe, he said, that nature was able to produce the machinery of cells through random processes. The explanations offered by evolution, he said, are incomplete. "I can't make the jumps, the leaps they make in the explanations," Dr. Tour said. "Will I or other scientists likely be able to makes those jumps in the future? Maybe." Opposing petitions have sprung up. The National Center for Science Education, which has battled efforts to dilute the teaching of evolution, has sponsored a pro-evolution petition signed by 700 scientists named Steve, in honor of Stephen Jay Gould, the Harvard paleontologist who died in 2002. The petition affirms that evolution is "a vital, well-supported, unifying principle of the biological sciences." Mr. Chapman of that institute said the opposing petitions were beside the point. "We never claimed we're in a fight for numbers," he said. Discovery officials said that they did not ask the religious beliefs of the signers and that such beliefs were not relevant. John G. West, a senior fellow at Discovery, said it was "stunning hypocrisy" to ask signers about their religion "while treating the religious beliefs of the proponents of Darwin as irrelevant." Discovery officials did point to two scientists, David Berlinski, a philosopher and mathematician and a senior fellow at the institute, and Stanley N. Salthe, a visiting scientist at Binghamton University, State University of New York, who signed but do not hold conservative religious beliefs. Dr. Salthe, who describes himself as an atheist, said that when he signed the petition he had no idea what the Discovery Institute was. Rather, he said, "I signed it in irritation." He said evolutionary biologists were unfairly suppressing any competing ideas. "They deserve to be prodded, as it were," Dr. Salthe said. "It was my way of thumbing my nose at them." Dr. Salthe said he did not find intelligent design to be a compelling theory, either. "From my point of view," he said, "it's a plague on both your houses."